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 Mal 4:1-6

1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun (instead of Son) of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

This is why the Pharisees asked John. Elijah is supposed to come. Art thou Elijah? They knew Malachi well, of course. No, I am not. Are you the Christ? No, I am not? Art thou that prophet? No. if you have a good study Bible, you will see in you margin, and you should find Matt. 11;14; 17:11; Mk. 9:11; and the one most important, Lk. 1:17.

Mindy:  So what is the dreadful day of the Lord? Is that talking about revelations?

That talks of the end times at the second coming of Jesus Christ. But that is another subject.

Now remember in the very first part of Luke when it talks about the angel coming to Zacharias and telling about this son, john, that is going to be born to him and he doesn’t believe it at first. Now look at Lk. 1: 16 and 17.

Luke 1:16-17

16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

Who is he talking about? Initially they are talking about John. Go back to verse ten.

Luke 1:10-17

10 And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.

11 And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.

12 And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Isn’t that what we just read in Malachi. But Malachi said, first Elijah must come. They were looking for the actual Elijah to show up. But now we find that it was not Elijah, but it was what was on Elijah, the Spirit and power of God. Well, instead of the Spirit and power of God being on you, now it is called the promise of the father that shall be in you. So that is why they asked John, art thou Elijah? No. Art thou that prophet? No. Art thou the Christ? No. But he said no! But what does Jesus say. Go to Matt. 11:13.

Matt 11:13-14

13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

15 But yet John said, but I am not Elijah. How can the scripture contradict itself? Now notice the other points to Mk. 9:11.

Mark 9:11-13

11 And they asked him, saying, Why say the scribes that Elias must first come?

12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.

13 But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him.

Now, wait a minute. Jesus is talking as if John the Baptist is Elijah and yet it said twice, Elias is come.  But John says, No, I am not Elias. But we read in Luke 1:17 that the Elijah that would come would be John the Baptist who would come in the Spirit and Power of Elijah. So all they were looking for was the actual Elijah that would come instead of what Elijah had. Now remember that Elijah did eight miracles during his lifetime. So the lesser prophet, Elisha the prophet said to Elijah, give me a double portion of what you have. That’s the promise I want.

2 Kings 2:9

9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.

So during Eilsha’s lifetime he did 15 miracles, not sixteen, while Elijah had done eight during his lifetime, but the sixteenth happened when he was already dead. His bones were there in a hole in the ground, and here these two guys are carrying a dead man out to be buried and they look up and see a huge army coming against the Isrealites so they took the body and threw it in the nearest hole and ran back, and as they were running back, some guy comes taring past them running and they realized, wait a minute, that’s the dead man.  Now turn to Matthew chapter 17 comes the magic secret starting at verse 10, starting at verse nine so we can see what it is talking about.

Matt 17:9

9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

Why/ Go back to verse 1.

Matt 17:1-13

1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,

2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.

3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Now notice that was done at the water baptism and here it is done a second time at the transfiguation.

6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.

Kevin: Transfiguation? What is a transfiguration?

It is showing that all of a sudden you have the Christ take on this brightness. His clothes take on the whiteness. His face becomes as the sun and Moses and Elijah appear in front of them with the Christ in this big shikina glory. Then what is the representation, what is the meaning, what is the spiritual understanding of all this? And notice, the moment that it all happened, we got Moses and we got Elijah. But Moses was saved by the water. Remember, they went to kill him. The mother built a boat like Noah did, like bulrushes, put him out on the water. Here he is saved by the water again. Which is a spiritual understanding. But now God is bring in Moses representing the water baptism and Elijah representing the Holy Spirit baptism. One which is the Spirit of god and one which is the water baptism representing the covenant, so when Jesus said to Nicodemus, you must be born from above of both the water and the spirit. So in the natural he is saying water and the spirit and in the spirit He is saying here is Moses and here is Elijah. But they didn’t understand. Heh, let’s make a tabernacle for both these guys. They don’t see the spiritual understanding of this and they can’t understand why God suddenly announced again that He was the son of God. Well He comes up out of the water receives the baptism of the Holy Spirit and God announces He is my son.  He didn’t say anything publicly before that whatsoever, and yet now Moses representing the water baptism, Elijah, representing the baptism of the Holy Spirit appears in front of the Christ and God makes the announcement again, this is my son. So get the word, you don’t become the son of God unless you are with the water and with the spirit. Now let’s find out. In this very chapter is when it says it. They were sore afraid:

7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.

8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.

9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

Now he just finished telling them that He was going to rise again from the dead. They should have accepted that and believed it when he said it. But he said, here is an analogy in the spirit too. He said, now here is what you saw, but tell no man until I’m raised from the dead. Now why would he say that unless there was a spiritual understanding and you’re to keep secret  until that happens. One is a revelation.

10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes 9now this question came immediately after this happened, when Christ said shut up, don’t say anything until I’m raised from the dead – the question then is, then why say the scribes) that Elias must first come?

11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Elias must come first. Didn’t the scribes say Elias must come first? He said, Elias came and his purpose was to restore all things. But he already came. But yet when they came to John they asked him Art thou Elias? No! Art thou that prophet? No! Art thou the Christ? No! And yet Malachi says, Elijah shall come first. Then we go to the first chapter of Luke at verse 17 and it says that John came in the spirit and power, dunamus this time and not exousia, Miracle working power, of Elias. Then Jesus plainly says in Matthew in Chapter 17 Elias must come first. And he already came to restore all things. But this he spake of John the Baptist. The disciples understood. Well, then, it is not the individual, Elijah that was to come, it was the spirit and power of Elijah. And yet in the same chapter at the mount of transfiguration when Jesus is praying and His disciples are there, they suddenly see this big cloud and this beautiful light and all of a sudden there is Moses and Elijah standing there. But what was the purpose of them being there? Because it was the revelation to them later, that there is a covenant that must be made of God for a announcement to come from the father saying you are my son and the accomplishment of that is saying Moses representing the deliverence in water. Because  do you remember it said that when Moses came to the Red Sea he raised the rod and the waters parted. But when they parted, what happened? Go now to first Corinthians in chapter 10. Now when we went to the scripture in John we now discovered that Jesus Christ has the transfiguration in front of him and here with Moses and Elijah representing the water baptism and the Holy Spirit with the promise being given, as to Abraham and his seed the promises were made and this is the promise. Jesus said, Wait of the promise that you have heard of me in Acts chapter 1. And the in Acts chapter 2, Peter, when he sees everyone speaking in tongues he says, this is the promise that the father was going to give. And then they said well men and brethren, what shall we do? Repent and be baptize every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, for the Promise is given unto you and your children’s children. Now, in I Cor. 10 it talks about the baptism. But it talks not only about the baptism of water but also the baptism of the Holy Ghost in a most unusual way that is not said anywhere like it in the Old Testament.

1 Cor 10:1-4

1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant (I want to tell you something that you should know), how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea (so you see the sea, water baptism, and the cloud, the Holy Spirit);

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Now, it doesn’t say it once, it says it twice and then it comes in a talks about the eating the bread and the drinking of the wine, representing as that spiritual drink and the spiritual eating of the flesh, the manna from heaven. So here he gives the revelation that was not even shown in the Old Testament although it all happened. But yet it had a manifestation in the Spirit of a meaning in the Spirit representing as water baptism, going into the sea, and the cloud, so that the cloud went into the water and separated the sea, so the Holy Spirit separated the waters so they could go through on dry land and yet closed it all up to destroy the wicked. And yet when they went out to the wilderness it was the cloud by night that gave them the strength to overcome all of the heat and yet when he struck the rock every day, when he struck the rock water came forth and that water was that spiritual rock that followed them throughout the wilderness that gave them all the water to drink and that Rock was the Christ from which floweth living water. When Christ came to the well, he said, I have water from which you will never thirst, but this he spake of the Holy Spirit which was not yet given because Christ was not yet glorified. So all has spiritual revelation. Now we come to the point where we have to now understand what the water baptism now and its purpose is for, so we go now to the magic word that is in Colossians and keeping our hand in chapter 2 of Colossians we also have to have the understanding of Acts chapter 2 where he says, repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remissions of sins. What is the purpose then of that water baptism? We read in genesis about Abraham, that Abraham had to be circumcised and every man child of all his servants and his children had to be circumcised or they were cut off, they had no part of the inheritance, no part of the covenant, and every time God made a promise He changed the name. And when he changed the name he also made a promise, that you shall have a son, representing, that when we go into the water God changes our name to His own, we become the seed of Abraham ourselves. We become an heir and we become the Christ himself. It is no longer you that liveth, but Christ that liveth in you. Now let’s prove it. Let’s go now to Galatians which is the only major that proves this theory, if we want to call it that. First, in chapter 2 (of Colossians) it says:

Col 2

1 For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh;

2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.

5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

8  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

There is a special Greek word here meaning the divinity of God bodily so again it is calling Jesus Christ God in the flesh.

NT:2320

theotes (theh-ot'-ace); from NT:2316; divinity (abstractly):

KJV - godhead.

NT:2316

theos (theh'-os); of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with NT:3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very:

KJV - X exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].

10 And ye are (not will be) complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: (colon, not a period)

11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands (they made it with hands in Abraham, then what’s that doing here in the New Testament?) in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh (remember He said Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name  of Jesus Christ for the remission, the pardoning, the blotting out of your sins) (how?) by the circumcision of Christ: (what comes after a colon in English is an explanation of what has already been said. Now I want to know that in the Greek there is no punctuation, like we have with colons and so on; the sentence structure gives the meaning of the punctuation, whether we use a colon or a semicolon or a period or question mark or whatever, it if found in the sentence, not by the side of a word) (so the scripture is about to explain what the former passage means, ‘by the circumcision of Christ’)

12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith (through Christ) of the operation (the energeia, the energizing NT:1753 energeia (en-erg'-i-ah); from NT:1756; efficiency ("energy"): KJV- operation, strong, (effectual) working) of God, (faith is Christ and Christ is faith) who hath raised him from the dead (and what is the result of this circumcision? Now instead of this circumcision being made with hands of us cutting away our flesh, now God does it. So when you enter the water of baptism, as it said in Galatians, with Abraham and his seed were the promises made and it says if you have been baptized with Him, ye have put on Christ, and if ye are Christ’s, ye are Abraham’s seed, ye are NOW THE CHILDREN OF GOD; how? By being baptized in Him. God never said that He was the son of God until He came up out of the water and was baptized with the Holy Spirit; then God said; This is my son. At the mount of transfigeration when Christ is praying, then comes Moses and Elijah representing the water baptism and the Holy Spirit baptism. The God declared this is my son in whom I am well pleased. Hear ye Him. So it all comes in the understanding of what the water is. Why you are being baptized. But, if you don’t have the understanding, you are not baptized. Why? Notice there was a guest that was coming to the wedding feast and it said that he invited all His own people and they wouldn’t hear Him. So we come to the wedding feast and He invites anyone who wants to come, come to the wedding. So this guy shows up and he is standing at the door and the master of the house comes to him and says, Where is your garment?’ In other words, he was already suppose to have it on. It said he stood speechless. The Greek word for the word speechless is he lacked the understanding and was cast out. Well he knew enough to be there, but he was cast out. Now remember, it was a wedding feast. Now what is the difference between those that are guests at feast and those that are the brides of Christ? So it is better to be a bride than to be a guest to the wedding feast. God calls you the bride; he calls Himself, the husband. He calls us the wife. It talks about 10 virgins; five foolish, five wise; all waiting for the bride groom, but when thy heard the words, ‘The bridegroom cometh.’, they all stood up to trim their lamps, but the foolish, it didn’t say the wicked, the foolish said to the wise, give us some of your oil that we might have light at his coming. So, first of all, they knew that they were supposed to have the oil; secondly, they knew that they needed to have light at His coming. But the wise said to the foolish, Go to yonder city and buy the oil. It says that while they were gone, the husband came and took in the wise and shut the door.  Then the foolish showed up and said Lord, lord, lord, let us in. And the lord said, I don’t know you. What then is the difference? They were all waiting for the bridegroom. But there were foolish ones and wise ones. Wouldn’t it be better to be wise. But they thought that they could buy it. Because, notice the wise said, go to yonder city and buy it, and these idiots turned around and left. And they bought something because they came back. But it wasn’t what was required, so they weren’t let in. With the scriptures we get this understanding, that the water baptism, then, represents the new circumsion. Notice, that if you were a part of the covenant under the old, then you got the inheritance, you had a right to the inheritance. But if you were not circumcised, you were cut off, you had no part of the inheritance or the promise that was to come. But here it points out that it is not the circumcision made of hands anymore. I is the circumcision made without hands, buried with Him in baptism wherein you are risen with Him through the faith and the operation of God, who had raised him from the dead and here it goes:).

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; (now, not only are your sins forgiven, it’s gone, but he also says, now watch what happens when saying;)

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. (Now the period stops. It’s been a whole, long sentence in all his explanation, but he goes on:)

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow 9or sign or a token or an allegory) of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

18 Let no man beguile you (or seduce you) of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

19 And not holding the Head (Christ, you and I, the body), from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.

20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;

22    Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? (All the church says, God says you can’t do this, god says that you can’t do that; and God is giving us liberty; he is giving us freedom, and they want to put us back under bondage, after the doctrines of men, but no after the liberty that God has given us)

Kevin: Does that mean that I can go out and eat a slab of ribs?

Ya! You can eat a slab of ribs. That is why God said that he has given everything to be eaten with thanksgiving. But do all things in moderation. Eat a slab of ribs. It takes four days for the toxins to wiped from your body and they will be wiped from your body. But if you eat those ribs every day, you’re going to have problems with the ribs. If you eat apples every day, with all the stuff you have, you’re going to have problems with them. I used to eat strawberries when I never got them when I was in this boarding school. The never gave us any fruit whatsoever so I come out of the boarding school and I got my hands on some strawberries, I ate them by the pecks and I got hives. Boy, did I get hives. It was the over abundance in my body of the toxins that were in the strawberries. Good for you in small amounts. But, with an over dose of it, my body could not get rid of it fast enough so I came out with all of these hives and I had to scratch myself to death for two weeks. Learned the hard way.

Kevin: So we are allowed to get away from all the laws, the things that we used to live under as the laws in Leviticus and everything else because they were to show us that we had sinned. Once we become born again, then we know better.

Naturally, you  are no longer under the law. That’s why Paul said, that I know it is alright to eat pork, but when I am with a person who thinks they are still under the law in weakness in faith that thinks it is wrong to eat pork, while I am around her I am not going to eat pork to weaken her faith. Because she doesn’t understand what liberty and freedom she has. But, because she still thinks that she is still under the law, I am not going to irritate that and try to have to explain all of this problem, so I will let her thing that until she is able to be trained. But while I am at her house, I a not going to eat pork. If they think it is bad to eat something that has been sacrificed to idols, I am not going to eat it. But I know that it doesn’t mean anything anymore, because I am free under Christ. That is why he now says receive all things with thanksgiving. And yet under the old law, you were not to eat anything that was a scavenger of the sea and on land but He had reasons why he said that. Because, if they didn’t cook the pork, there were tape worms, which we discovered later, but they didn’t know then. Christ said, keep the Sabbath. Keep it holy. But His purpose was, He made our bodies, that is suppose to shut down every seven days. So He was giving us a regulation for a law, but for a purpose. Because he designed our body. He didn’t say, well I designed your body that way so I want you to know it, so that’s why I gave you the law. He is showing , that if you obey this law, you’re going to naturally get the amount of energy you need to be revitalized, because you’re stopping every seven days.

Kevin: I hope that this is not too far off topic. It is about Biblical law. Is it? There s a lot of Biblical law scholars out there that devote a whole lot of time to studying Biblical law. That’s in vain?

Ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth.

2 Tim 3:1-4:17

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.

12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Because, unless you have the revelation of the Holy Spirit, you’ll learn nothing. Now let me prove it to you. Let’s go now to I Cor. 2 starting at verse 11:

1 Cor 2:11-16

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth (or discerned) all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Kevin: Being baptized?